Friday, July 26, 2013

Classical Mamas Read - The Well Trained Mind Ch. 13-14

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Welcome back to Classical Mamas Read!  I'm excited to be back here with you today to discuss chapters 13 and 14 of The Well Trained MindIf you want to take a look back at our previous discussions, click the picture above to take you to a list of each chapter we have talked about.

We are beginning part 2 of the book, which is about the Logic stage.  The Well Trained Mind puts this stage as the 5th-8th grades.  This is all uncharted territory for me, so I'm counting on those of you with older children to share you thoughts!

Ch. 13 - The Argumentative Child


  • How do you know when your child is entering the Logic stage?  When they start to pause in the middle of reciting their memory work and as "why?"

  • There are different schools of thought regarding having children memorize information vs having children use critical thinking.  I love that the classical model doesn't say either-or to that debate, but rather puts each method in it's proper place.  We have our children memorize in the grammar stage and then think critically about it all in the logic stage.

  •  The logic stage student should no longer be struggling with reading, writing, and basic arithmetic.  Logic stage students have to be able to concentrate on analyzing, not comprehending.
 
"Logic trains the mind to approach every subject in a particular way---to look for patterns and sets of relationships in each subject area."

  • The composition of a logic stage student will focus on the motivation behind the events they study, not on just narrating the events (like in the grammar stage). 

  • While teaching your logic stage student, there will be less lecturing and more dialogue.

  • For reading, your student should be using more and more original sources.


Ch. 14 - Snow White was Irrational: Logic for the Intuitive


  • How do you begin logic with your children?  This chapter recommends starting out with having your 5th and 6th graders informally doing logic puzzles and then move into a formal logic program in 7th-8th grade.
 
  • This chapter gives a great basic discussion of what logic is.  It teaches you how to think about information and the validity of an argument.  Here is a tidbit that I found interesting...

"Logic is concerned with the form of the argument, not its content." (page 245)

 Now it's your turn!  I don't have a lot to comment on the ideas that I pulled from these chapters, since I haven't been there yet =)  I can tell you, though, I really like logic and critical thinking, so I think I will enjoy teaching my children when they get to this stage!


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